65. What does an ADHD business coach do to help entrepreneurs?

65. What does an ADHD business coach do to help entrepreneurs?

Forgive me for being just a little excited about this one, but in today's frickin' awesome episode of The Weeniecast, I'm sharing what it is that I do as an ADHD business coach.

And because there aren't that many of us around, I get to feel quite special!

Hi! I'm Katie McManus, ADHD entrepreneur business strategist and money mindset coach.

And welcome to "The Weeniecast."


The Impact of ADHD-Focused Business Coaching on Entrepreneurial Success

Let me tell you, as someone who's deep in the trenches of the ADHD business scene, I've always known the regular, boring-as-hell methods just don't cut it for us entrepreneurs who've sometimes got brains buzzing like a hive of hyperactive bees.

This episode is all about tearing apart why those one-size-fits-all business plans are a big fat nope for us folks who struggle with impulse control and can't seem to stay focused if our lives depended on it.

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Success, ADHD-Style: Crafting Your Own Damn Rulebook!

I've watched way too many brilliant ADHD peeps get totally bummed out by stiff structures and strategies that might as well be straightjackets.

We're talking about battling the whole shebang - from the hell of time management to chasing every shiny thing that catches our eye.

Personalization isn't just some nice-to-have; it's freakin' essential for us ADHD entrepreneurs.

Screw trying to squish our brains into neurotypical boxes!


ADHD Business Coaching: Because Normal is Boring

We need custom strategies – ones that weave the wild tapestries of our lives right into our business models.

We gotta look at the big picture – our income goals, our dream lifestyles, our sporadic strokes of genius, and yeah, the faceplants we're bound to take – to create a business environment where we can thrive and be our vibrant, zany selves.


Snagging Quick Wins & Building a Biz That Fits YOU

I'll be talking through my process and sharing some kick-ass stories of clients who didn't just hit their goals; they blew them out of the water, finding financial success while juggling the ADHD chaos.

These aren't just wins; they're blazing a trail for the rest of our community.

I'm all about getting quick, tangible results – that sweet, sweet 'dopamine drip' that keeps us going.

We also get into the nitty-gritty, like tackling our special brand of 'screw you' frustration and flipping rejection on its head to make us feel like unstoppable badasses.

Have a listen and learn why I'm here to help every single client carve out their path, one that doesn’t just spell success but resonates with the crazy, beautiful complexity of an ADHD brain.


Timestamped summary

00:00 Supporting ADHD business owners: tailored, not typical.

04:05 ADHD entrepreneurs struggle with program fit, and doubt creeps in.

12:32 Brene Brown: Leader & expert.

15:48 Develop your phone and interview skills to succeed.

19:30 ADHD and impulse challenges in business management.

22:08 Tailored coaching for long-term business success.

25:31 Personal life impacts business; emotions affect success.

28:58 Design business with specific life and strategy.

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In this episode, I'm going to explain to you exactly what an

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ADHD business coach like myself actually does. 

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Hi, I'm Katie McManus, business strategist and money mindset coach, and

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welcome to the Weenie cast. Sometimes I

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get this question, what does an ADHD business coach

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do? And it's a fair question because there's not a lot of us out there.

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Also, you know, business coaching is kind of a new thing. Before,

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if you wanted to start a business, you kind of had to figure it out

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on your own. You had to get a mentor, maybe go to business school.

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And thanks to the Internet and thanks to how the world

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works these days, that's no longer necessary to start

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a successful business. However, it's a lot easier if you have

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someone who is guiding you, teaching you what you don't know that you don't know,

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answering questions that you didn't know that you needed to ask,

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and shining light on common pitfalls that

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you wouldn't know were there if you didn't have the right support.

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So basically, an ADHD business coach, the short of it,

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is someone who helps you start your business and scale it. To

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a point that you feel it's successful. They do this in a way

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that works with your ADHD and isn't

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trying to force you into the quote unquote neurotypical way of

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doing things. Now, before

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we jump into what I do that's different, let's talk about

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the different supports that are out there that do not work

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for ADHD business owners and why they don't

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work. The typical business programs that are out there

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that are by people who started a business, they did

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a certain sequence of steps, and then they turned around, turned

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their process into a program and started showing people exactly what

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they did. These programs don't work for us. The one size fits

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all business plan is a bad match for people with

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ADHD for numerous reasons. First and

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foremost, just because it worked for someone else, we're not

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going to believe inherently that it's going to work for us, whereas

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neurotypicals are going to have a lot of trust that this whole process, well, if

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it worked for them, it'll work for me too, because that's how their whole life

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has gone for us. Things working for someone

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else doesn't mean shit. If you think

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back to different goals that you've had throughout your life, like maybe a

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diet, maybe you were trying to lose 20 pounds and you followed a diet that

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worked for someone else, well, it didn't work for you because sometimes you needed

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dopamine snacks and you fell off the wagon and you completely lost trust

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in yourself. How neurotypical people

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have learned how to budget from their world. We

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don't understand how that works. It does not work for us when

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we need to make an impulse buy because we need that dopamine

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hit. All budgets go out the window. Right? And of course, this

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is different for every single ADHD person. So even

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a plan that's specific to ADHD people around any

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of these things that makes allowances may not work for every single

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ADHD person. Oftentimes in these programs, the

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instructions are way too long.

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We can't sit still and absorb every single

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detail the way a neurotypical person can. It's not even that

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we can't do it. It's that we have too much trauma from

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school where we screwed it up. So as we're going

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through these really detailed instructions for this business building

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program, we're going to start assuming that we're missing a

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piece. It's this fear that bubbles up underneath

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everything, where you start doubting that this is going to work for you because, oh,

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my God, I wasn't able to follow the instructions on that project in

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bio. I wasn't able to follow the instructions at that one job

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I had in college. What's going to be different here? There

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must be something that I'm missing. And one of the reasons that this is

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so hard for us is that we don't work linearly. We bounce

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around, and most of these programs are designed

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linearly. There's also this factor of when a person with

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ADHD goes to start a business and they sign up for one of these programs,

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and I speak from experience here because I signed up for pretty much all of

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them. You get to a certain point in lesson three where you're like, this doesn't

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fit my personality. That's not my strength. This

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is not what I want to be spending my time on. And

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as we all know, when we decide something's not the right fit,

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when we decide that something isn't something that we want to do, we

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are masters at avoiding doing it, which sucks

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if it is a foundational building block of that

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program. And then it feeds into this story that we have on ourselves

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that we just don't finish stuff, that we sign up for things and we can't

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see them through, and that we screw things up and that for some

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reason, things just don't work for us the way that they work for other people.

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So we have a ton of doubt. We

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have things that we don't want to do in here. We have moments

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where we've tuned out for the last 20 minutes of this 47 minutes

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long video, and then we got frustrated that we have to rewind because

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we weren't sure which part was useful.

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By the way, this is one of the reasons why the videos that I have

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in all of my programs are really short. Sweet. To

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the point. Okay. Because you don't need to hear about my grandma and what she

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taught me about clipping roses and what that has to do with you doing market

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research, okay? It doesn't. When I create a video for any of

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my programs, I'm telling you, here's what you need to do. Here's how

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you need to do it. And if you're not sold on that, then here's why

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it's so important for your business. And then I give you very clear

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instructions about how you go and do it. And then your job is to

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go and do it, not to watch the next video. In addition to all

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of this, when we get frustrated with something, when it doesn't feel like

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the right fit, or maybe the person who's in these videos,

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who's running the program says something that. Doesn'T hit us correctly,

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we then get. What I call frustration

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defiance. And this is where our ADHD temper. Kind of comes

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out, right? Because when we get frustrated with something. Our fuse gets

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very short. I want you to think of the last time

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you woke up late. The hot water heater had turned off in the middle of

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the night, so you had to take a cold shower. Things started just going wrong

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from the beginning of the day. And think about the point where you.

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Blew up at someone. It's happened to all of

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us. And unfortunately for people with ADHD, when things

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start going wrong or we fart, we fart. When we start

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feeling really frustrated, we kind of snap. And whoever is in the

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vicinity then becomes the enemy. Not forever in

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most cases, but when. We'Re in a scenario

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where we're trying to do something, we spent a lot. Of money on it, and

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the thing. That we're trying to do becomes really frustrating. We then

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aim that frustration at the person who created it. And

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when we start getting angry at. Them, when we start getting upset

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with. What they set up for us, that. Makes us feel like a failure. It

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doesn't matter if the rest of. The things that they tell us are. Super

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helpful, if they fit our personality. If they fit our strengths,

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because we've changed our mind about liking this person or this

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organization. We don't want to do any of it? It's like back in high

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school when you had that one teacher who you absolutely hated and so you

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refused to. Do homework for their class. It didn't hurt the teacher, it hurt

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you. But you'd be damned if you're going. To do

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anything that made their life easier. I'm talking to you, Miss Whitmore.

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No, just kidding. Which, by the way, in

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junior year of high school, she literally

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asked the whole class what she was doing wrong, that we weren't doing

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our homework and all this stuff, and I thought she was being literal. So I

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told her the seven things that she was doing that were bad

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teaching methods in the middle of the class. It was the only time

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in my high school career where I got sent to the principal's office the way

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she had asked it. I thought she was being genuine, that she was asking for

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feedback. She was not. It was a rhetorical question. And

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what was funny is I called a conference with my

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guidance counselor, the principal, my parents and her to see

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if I could get out of the class. Unfortunately, we were in the third quarter

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of the year and they didn't let me. Back to the point.

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The one size fits all business building program

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model does not work for the ADHD

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brain. And I have tested this. I have bought almost

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all of them and tried to do all of them,

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and I usually fall flat in lesson two or

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lesson three. I don't even get halfway through and. I know this

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isn't just me. I have a whole group of people that I talk

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to who are all like B school dropouts. And if you're not familiar with what

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B school is, it's the whole business building program that Marie Forleo

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has designed. And promoted over the last decade. The other issue

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with a lot of these programs is that there's no quick wins in the

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beginning and that's something that is really critical to an ADHD

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business. Know, when we're working really hard at

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something, when we're putting ourselves out there and being vulnerable and

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being brave and doing something we've never done before, we. Need

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pretty immediate feedback that it's going well. And the

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majority of these programs don't offer any way for that to happen.

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So what's different between those programs that are

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one size fits all and designed for neurotypical people and working with an

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ADHD business coach? Well, I can't speak for other ADHD business

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coaches because I don't know their programs, but I can speak for what. I do

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with my clients and it's pretty much a four prong

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approach. And I say four prong and not four

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steps because it's not linear for each and every

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client. It's going to be different where we. Start from because they

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need a strategy. And a plan that works for their strengths,

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that helps them overcome their unique. Challenges,

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and that feels aligned to what. Their bigger vision is for this

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business.

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Prong one, we're talking training because

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starting a business, there are a lot of skills that you need to have that

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you were never trained on in high school, college, and probably in most of your

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jobs. I come from a background in sales and marketing, and

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the sales and marketing that I learned in those jobs

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were completely different to what I need to do in my business, where I am

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selling my own service. So when a client works with

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me, there are some basic business skills that I train them on. So

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how to sell on a phone call, how to put together a proposal,

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how to create content for social media. And this is going to be different for

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each and every client because their ideal clients are going to be

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buying from different platforms. So it may be TikTok, it may be Facebook, it may

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be LinkedIn, it may be Instagram. So we're coming up with

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a strategy that's specific to their business and their ideal

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clients. We're also identifying what their, and I hate this term,

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and please do not gag what their unique thought

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leadership is going to be. And I'm not saying that they're going to go out

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and be like, hey everyone, I'm a thought leader, you should listen to me.

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I'm talking about the different angles. They're going to talk about what

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their expertise is. So for know, in my mind, there are three types

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of thought leader. There's the expert. The expert is only

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interesting to people who are interested in that topic, right? So

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Anthony Fauci, who led us all through the Covid-19

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pandemic, most of the time no one gives a

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crap about what he has to say because what he's talking about, pandemics and

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endemics that aren't relevant to us. No one's interested in hearing his take

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on it unless you're interested in the specific disease that

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he is talking about. Everyone was very interested in

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Covid-19 because it impacted all of us. So when you're being

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an expert in your thought leadership, you want to be careful

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not to alienate people who aren't interested in your topic.

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There's also the pointer thought leader. Oprah Winfrey is a great example of

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this. She got famous basically having people on her show and pointing

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to them and saying they have something worth talking about. A lot of

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the books in her book club had to do with personal transformation, so she

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got associated with personal transformation. She's not an

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expert on personal transformation. She just points to other experts. And

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in addition to that, the believer, the believer thought leader Brene

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an expert hybrid. She takes the data that she

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gets in her research, and she comes up with this belief

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system around how we live wholehearted

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lives. What does it mean to overcome

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the fear of being vulnerable? And she tells stories in a

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way that gets us on board with what she believes. You can kind of see

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how this is going to be different for each and every client. I also

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train them on how they can create offers that their ideal clients

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would jump at buying, how to do market research so that they can

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determine what their profitable niche is going to be, how to work

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on their relationship with money so that they're not afraid of asking

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top dollar for their work, and some technical stuff like how do you set up

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your billing system, how do you set up an email marketing campaign?

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How do you launch a webinar? How do you get people to actually register for

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the webinar? And really, for an ADHD business

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owner, there's no linear way that I'm training this.

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constantly because we have to go where their

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interest is, where their hyper focus is in that moment.

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through a linear training program that goes this point

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and this point and this point, I would lose them with

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one small exception. One of the things that I do with all of my

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clients who are just starting their business is I have them

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do market research, interviews so that they can really

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figure out not only what their profitable niche is, but

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exactly what they need to say in their marketing to get them to sign up,

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what they need to include in their offer, that will make their offer

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a no brainer for those ideal clients. Now, what my clients

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don't realize, and maybe I shouldn't even be sharing this on

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the podcast, oh, what am I going to say next? Well, you'll have to keep

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listening to find out. But first, squirrel, squirrel, squirrel,

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squirrel.

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shouldn't even be sharing this on the podcast. It's kind of a Mr.

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Miyagi move, right? Because very early on, when you're starting. A

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business, you need wins. You need little wins that you can celebrate to

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see that you're on the right track. When I send my clients out to do

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market research interviews, I give them all the instructions. They know exactly what questions

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they need to ask, how they get people booked in for those interviews, all that

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stuff. And I give them a goal. They have to interview

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550 people. Now, this is incredible for

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their programs, for whatever offer they are designing, because.

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They are going to market, test it before they even go out and market

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it. So if they're going and interviewing people and the problem that

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they think they're going to solve actually isn't a problem. To their ideal

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clients, great. That's not what their offer is going to be. We're going to

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redesign it really quick. So that they can start making money. As fast as

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possible so it helps. Them feel like they are on the. Right

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path and get that immediate feedback. In addition to that,

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they get really comfortable asking people to get on the. Phone with

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them, which they're going to need to get good at if they

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want people to book sales calls in the future. They're also going to

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get really good at running those interview calls,

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at being the person who's in charge of the timeline, which

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again, when they get to the point where they're doing sales calls with their

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potential clients, they're going to have to have some skill at. In addition

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to this, they're going to start getting those dopamine

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drips because they're going to successfully very

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early on book people for these interview calls. Those

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little wins are enough dopamine to keep them working

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in their business for the amount of time that it takes

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till they get their first paying client. For the most part, we

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bounce around through all the skills training, but that is the thing that I have

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most of my clients do. Absolutely. First because I want them to

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get that immediate dopamine drip. I want them to market test their

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idea. I want to make their marketing easy to do and

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designing their offer super simple. But everything else is

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completely haphazard depending on what they want. And this is true for my one on

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one clients, but it's also true for my group program. If you are a member

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of the BYOB program, you'll know that our group calls are all

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over the place. And that's okay. Every question that gets asked in

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those group calls is useful to everyone in the group call.

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And because the majority of us all have adhd,

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we can jump really easily from one topic to another

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to another, even if they're completely different. And it keeps

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it interesting for everyone because we all know what it's like when we're in a

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lecture, that's about one thing for a whole hour.

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Yeah, it doesn't go so well. So I find this

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model of supporting my clients is so helpful for them to stay

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engaged not only in the program, but in their businesses so that they

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can actually start getting clients and build some momentum. So

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that's prong number one is training.

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Prong number two is mindset coaching. Again, this

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is going to be so different for everyone. Some of my clients come to me

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and they have really bad mindset beliefs around their

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relationship with money. Others have a more general

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scarcity mindset where they're afraid there are no clients out there in the world and

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we. Kind of have to bust that myth for them. Others have doubts about what

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they can achieve. The smorgasbord of bad

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mindsets that we have to work through to have a. Successful business is

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vast and never ending. But we have to work through

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these. Different mindset blocks before you're

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going to be able to have a successful business. This

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is one of the reasons why I never guarantee

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that my clients are. Going to get a client or make a certain amount of

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money at a. Certain point throughout our program, because I've

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had clients who for the whole, like.

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6912 months we were working together. We were mainly

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working on moving them through these mindset blocks with

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some moments of training, with some moments of designing their offer, with them

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doing market research. But mainly the sessions we're doing

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together are, oh my God, I don't believe. I can do this.

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And I can't tell you how many of those clients after we've

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completed have messaged me. Oh my God, I just got two clients this

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week. Oh my God, I just got another. Three clients in the last two

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weeks. I had one client message me

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recently. That she just got so many clients, she's going to have to

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raise her. Rates in the new year. How exciting.

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But they wouldn't get there if we didn't do that mindset work.

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It's so important. So that's prong two of my

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approach. Prong three is

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their personal ADHD struggles. Now,

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of course, people with ADHD generally have similar struggles,

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but for some time, management is

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harder than for others. Other clients have

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impulse control that they have to work on, especially when it comes

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to spending on their businesses. For a lot of my

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clients, it's focusing on the thing that they don't want to do in their business,

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but they have to because it's just a part of running a business. And for

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99.9% of all of my clients, we have to work through

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shiny object syndrome. Shiny object syndrome shows up in

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how they want to market their work. They may get this wild

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hair idea that they should be on Instagram and then invest $2,000 a

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month on an Instagram specialist and then realize four months, and that's not where

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they should be. They may get an idea of a new program they want to

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launch, even though they just launched one program and one the month before

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and one the month before. Another ADHD struggle that most

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business owners encounter at some point, and I count myself among

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them, is rejection sensitivity disorder. And there's so

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much potential rejection when you're starting a business. It's not just

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rejection when you invite someone to be a client. It's rejection when you post something

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and no one likes it. It's rejection when you host a webinar

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and only three people sign up for it and only one attends. It's

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rejection when you submit your name to speak at an event and you never

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hear back from them. There's perceived rejection when you're out with a

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bunch of friends and no one asks you how your new business is

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going, and you assume that they think it's stupid and that you

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shouldn't be doing it, and you've made a massive mistake, even though

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they've just had too many drinks and didn't

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remember to ask. There's a different way for each person to

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work through each one of these struggles. Time management. There are

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strategies that work really well for me that will not work for another ADHD

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person. Shiny object syndrome is another one. There are things

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that will keep you on track that won't work for another one

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of my clients. And that's okay. Let's find what works

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for you. So we have to work on keeping them

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on the single road that leads to Rome, right. That one

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offer so that they don't confuse their audience. And a whole other

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smorgasbord of shiny object syndrome. Things that pop up

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in our day to day.

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And then finally, the fourth prong of my approach

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is I customize a plan that works for each individual

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client. I do this with my one on one clients, and I do this with.

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My clients in my group programs. Because here's what

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those one size fits all programs don't do.

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They don't teach you how to identify what your

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big vision is for this business and how to reverse

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engineer it into what you need to be doing today

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and tomorrow and the day after tomorrow and the day after that, and the day

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after that. They don't break down that if you want to make a

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certain amount of money in three years, here's what you need to be

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charging today to be able to reach that. They don't

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break down if you want to work a certain amount of hours

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per week. So, for instance, I don't want to work more than 30 hours

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a week. My strategy is going to be totally

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different from someone who wants to work 10 hours a week or

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40 hours a week. When I work with my clients, we're

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taking into account what their big goal is, all these other factors of how

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much money they want to make, how much time they want to spend in their

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business, how much time they want to spend with their family and on vacation, what

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they want to spend their time on while they're working in the

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business. And we're taking that. And so many other factors,

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like their strengths, their weaknesses, the things that they would

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rather get their eyes chewed out by an alligator than do.

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Which, as you can imagine, it wouldn't just be your eyes getting chewed out.

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Alligators have big mouths is what I'm saying. And your eyes are very, very small.

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I know I don't have to explain this, but it's kind of fun.

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I feel like Dr. Evil right now. Like, I want sharks with laser

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beams. I want alligators that

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can chew out eyeballs. What was my point again?

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Oh, yeah, that's right. There's stuff in your business that you really, really

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do not want to do. If you were to follow a one. Size fits

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all business plan, that business. Plan might make you do that thing.

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Over and over and over again. I don't do that with my clients.

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If it's something that you feel completely miserable doing, what we're

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figuring out is how you can outsource it best.

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An element that runs throughout most of these

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prongs is what's going on in your personal

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life. As humans. We like saying that we're good

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at. Compartmentalizing, and that's bullshit.

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We're not. Like, it's one of the most magical things about

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humans is how we do one thing is generally how we do everything

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else. I can't tell you

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how many times I've had a client tell me after we work

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on their relationship with money and get them a lot more

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comfortable asking for the money that they want. That

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they kind of embarrassingly mention to. Me at the end of

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our sessions. Like, hey, something I'm noticing is that. Six is

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getting a lot better.

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Because. They'Re learning to ask for what they. Want in

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their money. It's not just staying there, they're getting.

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Better at asking for what they want in all other areas of their

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life. We suck at compartmentalizing. It does

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not work for us, and it's especially true for people with ADHD. So

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if you're struggling with something in your personal life, it's going to impact you

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in your business. They are interrelated. If you had a fight

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with your spouse, it's going to impact your whole day. If your

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water heater went out and you have to buy a new one. And it's super

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expensive, that's going to. Cause stress in your business.

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It's so funny. When clients first start with me in the first few

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sessions, the first few group sessions, they

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very nervously usually ask, like, am I allowed to talk about a personal

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thing? And my answer is always,

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of course, because everything that's going on in your personal life is going to

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impact your business. And we're not designing a business that

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needs a robot of a human to be run. We're designing

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a business that can withstand a human who has

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emotions, who occasionally gets sick, who occasionally has a

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bad day, who occasionally is in executive dysfunction and knows

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all the things that they need to do, but can't seem to get themselves to

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do it. If we don't design your business to be able to

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withstand you running it, your business is not going to

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last long because you, my friend, are not a

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robot. Some of the results that I'm most proud of, that my clients have

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achieved. My client, Lauren Lefkowitz, who started with

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me in January of 2021, she was able to leave

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her job five months after starting. She hit six figures

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in her first year, which is not typical. Like,

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if you're thinking you're going to hit six figures in your first year, I would

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caution you to be a little more conservative. Don't

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plan on it. But because we customized a

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strategy that would work specifically to her and her available time. In

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the beginning, when she was working her full time job and

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designed a program that she felt really proud of selling

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that worked for her and her ideal clients, she was able to

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accomplish that. My other client, Adam Kimmel, is another

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story that I'm really proud of. When he started with me, he was making 2000,

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$3,000 a month in his copywriting business. In about seven

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months, we were able to up that to $9,000 a

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month. We were also able to increase his

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revenue for that year by about 50,000, give or

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take. And the following year, he made

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$150,000, plus or minus some dollars

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from his copywriting business. His big goal with all this

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was to be able to retire his wife from the job that

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she hated. And he did all of this while also working a

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full time job. His goal was never to leave the full time job.

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So we were able to create a strategy that worked for him to

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build this business up to $150,000 a year while

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only working about 10 hours a week in his business, including doing

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client work. I have clients who work 40 hours a week and make six

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figures. I have clients who work half that and make six figures as well.

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But I certainly never had a coach like Katie before who was able

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to add value on so many different prongs

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of my business. Katie's versatility is, I think, the

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difference maker that sets her apart from

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other coaches that are out there. There are people who can train you on sales,

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there are people who can help you with your mindset, there are people who

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can help you price a service

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or a product. There are people who can help you with market research

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and can teach you about social media. And there are people who can

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help you with ADHD and can help you turn

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some of the typical challenges of ADHD

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into superpowers. But I don't think there's anyone who can do all of those

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things at the same time. When you're designing a business,

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you have to be very specific about what kind of life you want to

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have when it's full time because I

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can tell you there are a gazillion different ways to start a business and there

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are a gazillion different ways to make that business super financially

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successful. However, if you're not

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intentional about the life you're going to have as you're building

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it, guess what? You're not going to have that life. You're not going to trip

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and fall and land into your perfect schedule that

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optimizes your strengths and outsources the things that are super

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challenging to you. If you want to have your ideal business, you

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have to have a custom strategy that will help you get

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there and to wrap this up, that's the long story

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of what an ADHD business coach does. So to answer the

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original question, that is what I, an ADHD business

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coach, do for my clients.

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You. If you're starting a business and you're looking for support,

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you need to look for someone who can be dynamic in

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helping you overcome each one of these unique ADHD

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struggles. And because we have so many episodes on all of these

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topics that I've. Just touched on, we are including a. List

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of links in the show notes of this episode so you can go.

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Check out those episodes. And I want to remind you, if. You'Re starting

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a business, if you're in the process of growing your business and you're

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feeling frustrated because the resources you've been turning to

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don't feel like a fit, or they frustrate you, or you've just

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given up on them completely to figure it out on your own and you're ready

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to get support that fits you, then I invite you to

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book a generate income strategy call with me, and to do so, just

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go to forward

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slash strategycall. And that link is also in the show notes.

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I've had calls with Katie where all of those things

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are happening, where Katie is

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providing value on firing on

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all cylinders, where we go from

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my relationship with my kids to

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something triggering a traumatic experience,

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to a sales call helping me with

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pricing an offer, helping me with

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getting more leads on social media, to talking about my

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operations, and then back to me

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forgetting the coffee on top of my car and driving off

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all in one session, all in 1 hour

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slot. Squirrel, squirrel, squirrel.

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