23: How ADHD entrepreneurs can become brave public speakers!

 

Are people with ADHD more brave? Can they be? (Transcript)

 

[00:00:00] In this episode I'm going to share with you how I, Katie McManus stepped out of the weenie and into the winning.

[00:00:07] one of the reasons I talk so often about you needing to stop being a weenie is because I have so much experience being a weenie . I was that kid growing up who lived on a hill, and all my friends would come over with their bikes and they'd be so excited to ride their bikes down the hill.

[00:00:23] Like they would just like, pedal and pedal and try to go as fast as they could down the sidewalk. And there I'd be behind them going about two miles an hour. Scared for my life that I would fall. And actually I was probably more likely to fall because I was going so slow , like my balance would've been off. there was just this massive lack of confidence. I always got this feedback my whole life that I come across as so confident.

[00:00:47] And there's this funny thing that happens when people see you as confident and you're not confident, is you create this special brand of imposter.

[00:00:57] And it manifests as you constantly seeing yourself as not living up to other people's expectations.

[00:01:03] Now, this was a double whammy for me because where I was the biggest chicken, where I was the most massive weenie was being seen by other people. And what I'm talking about is public speaking. I was terrified of public speaking from a very, very early age.

[00:01:23] The only times I would successfully speak publicly were at funerals for people that I deeply cared about, because in those moments, the only thing I cared about was honoring that person. I wasn't worried about the people in front of me.

[00:01:36] I think it also helped that usually when you're speaking in a funeral, like, you know, everyone in the audience is so wrapped up in their own sadness that they're really not paying attention to you.

[00:01:44] But any other setting, doing presentations for school, speaking at nonprofit events, speaking at town meeting, which if you've seen Gilmore Girls, the TV show those town meetings actually do happen in small towns in New England. [00:02:00] And yes, they are full of drama

[00:02:03] Now the fears that hold people back are different, and it usually happens in this fucked up way, where the thing that you're most afraid of is actually the thing that will make you most successful. And this obviously is different for everyone. For me it was public speaking. For another person it could be writing for another person.

[00:02:20] It could be painting and letting your paintings be seen.

[00:02:23] it usually has to do with how other people perceive you.

[00:02:27] So it's kind of hard to talk about how to become brave unless you're actually talking about a story. And so I'm just gonna share my personal journey with becoming brave like how I stopped being a weenie. , my biggest fear was public speaking. And just to give you an idea of how bad I was at public speaking, I once got voluntold by professor at my college to read a letter at a literary luncheon with about 300 people in the audience.

[00:02:55] This letter was from one of the authors who was gonna be honored at this luncheon, but couldn't make it. And so this professor, because I was well spoken, one-on-one, assumed that I would be really good speaking at this event. I told him, , I absolutely put my foot down and said, I'm not doing that.

[00:03:11] And he kind of blew past that. He was like, no, no, no, no, you're gonna be fine. He soon regretted that . I, I will never forget getting up at that podium,

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[00:03:22] looking out at, the 300 plus people at this luncheon. It felt like there were thousands of them, just so you know. Sweat just trickling down the sides of my neck and down my back.

[00:03:34] Cause I was so nervous. My hands were shaking, holding this letter. I had reprinted this letter in bold font, double space. I had practiced it. I had read it over and over and over again. And let me tell you, I was so terrified that I stuttered and stammered through this whole

[00:03:51] fucking letter. I was so bad that people in the audience came up to me after I read this letter [00:04:00] and apologized to me for how bad I was.

[00:04:04] It was the most mortifying experience of my life. And I'm saying that as a person whose skirt has flown up over her head in front of a bus full of tourists in San Francisco, I would do that every day for the rest of my life before I relived this one experience.

[00:04:23] After that event, I literally went home. I bagged up all the books this professor had lent me. I wasn't in any of his classes. And at two o'clock that morning, I drove to his house knowing that he and his wife would be fully asleep, and I left these books on his doorstep and I never spoke to him again.

[00:04:40] He also never reached out to me again, which tells me , he understood what he had done to me in that moment and I hope he felt really guilty about it. I hope he took that, you know, through to the rest of his life. I actually don't know if this person's still alive, but you know, if they're not, I hope they felt really guilty about it till they're dying day.

[00:04:59] This is a long time ago.

[00:05:04] I'm realizing the more I do this podcast, I actually have kind of a petty, vengeful side for former teachers who treated me badly.

[00:05:13] so now you have a picture of how bad I was at public speaking and that I had a right to be terrified of doing it. Now, one of the things I always knew about myself is that I wanted to help people and I didn't wanna help people just volunteering on the weekends. I wanted my job, my career, my calling to be in some way helping other people.

[00:05:34] This landed me in a bunch of different sales roles because when you're working for a company, one of the most direct ways that you can help clients is by selling to them and selling them a solution to the problems that they have.

[00:05:48] One of the things about being in sales is sometimes you have to give presentations. Sometimes you have to do a standup with your regional sales manager, with your boss, with all of [00:06:00] your coworkers. And people on the marketing team, and you have to explain every single thing that you did that quarter.

[00:06:07] Sometimes you have to be in a room with dozens of other salespeople and explain a process that you implemented that was really successful. And for me, these were the most painful experiences of my work. And so I recognized that learning to speak publicly was going to be the be all, end all of me breaking that success ceiling that I created for myself.

[00:06:35] I also, deep down, knew that sales wasn't gonna be the thing that I did forever. I knew that I was gonna become a coach at some point. I knew that at some point I would wanna stand on the stage and show people a better way to be in some fashion. I didn't know at the time that I was gonna be a business coach a better way to be, to make their lives better.

[00:06:54] Or to improve their lives.

[00:06:56] So what did I do about it, ? Well, first and foremost, I had to get over this fear of just being in front of people. And so I decided to enroll myself into some improv classes. And if you're from the San Francisco Bay Area you'll recognize the name Bats Bay Area theater Sports, one of the best schools for improv on the West Coast.

[00:07:17] in these classes, I learned that like, you can make mistakes and no one cares. You can stutter and you can stammer and you can screw up your words and you can use the wrong word, and you can forget what your character's supposed to be doing, and you can walk in the wrong direction. Or you could like treat someone else as if they're a different character than what they are.

[00:07:36] You can screw up in a million different ways and it's.

[00:07:40] One of the beautiful things about improv also is that you learn how to take whatever is given to you in the moment and turn it into something else, right? Because it doesn't matter if you're giving speeches and you have a speech that you have memorized word for word you don't know when an audience member is [00:08:00] gonna shout a question at you and interrupt you.

[00:08:03] You don't know if like someone's gonna open the side door and the fire alarm is gonna go off.

[00:08:08] You don't know when a waiter is gonna drop a whole tray of drinks making a crash. And as the speaker, as the person who is controlling the energy of the room, by being on stage, you're gonna have to acknowledge that in some way. There's always going to be moments of improv when you're speaking. So learning to improvise in a really fun environment that was really safe helped me improvise better in my day-to-day and be more comfortable in front of people.

[00:08:40] Now, one of the things that improvisation does not do is get you comfortable being yourself in front of people, right? Because when you're improvising, you're usually pretending to be like an alien from a far off place who's discovering zippers for the very first time, and is also learning to ride elephants.

[00:08:57] You know, something absolutely ridiculous. So you're outside of yourself. You're not standing on stage as yourself, looking at it through the audience, sharing your own thoughts or your own processes, That is not improv, after going through all these improv classes, that was still incredibly scary.

[00:09:14] Improv got me to the point where I was comfortable on stage being someone else. I was comfortable on stage speaking and being involved and taking what was given to me. And 'yes anding' it and creating a whole storyline. It didn't give me the confidence to get up there and be Katie McManus. It didn't give me the confidence to think that I actually had something worth saying.

[00:09:35] So the next step I did is I actually joined a Toastmasters group. And if you haven't heard of Toastmasters it's an amazing nonprofit group. They are everywhere. If you wanna get better at public speaking, can look up Toastmasters in your area, and I guarantee you there will be several meetings at several different times on different days each week.

[00:09:53] It's kind of like aa. So if you wanna join a Toastmasters group, I can't recommend it enough.[00:10:00] Now in Toastmasters, everyone there is there to get better at public. It's the most normalizing environment for someone who's afraid of being seen on stage because you look at this group and you have CEOs, and you have VPs, and you have entrepreneurs, and you have people who are just starting in their career and everyone has one thing in common.

[00:10:23] They are terrified of speaking publicly, and they're also usually really bad at it, which is this massive boost to you because you're not the only one. It doesn't matter where in your career you are. You're not the only one who struggles with this problem and everyone in that group, their one goal is to support each other in getting better.

[00:10:43] And so through Toastmasters, you volunteered to give speeches. They have different exercises that you do throughout the meeting, so everyone has a chance to get up and speak in front of each other. They make it fun, but they also give really helpful feedback.

[00:10:58] my Toastmasters group was really cool. It was actually through my workplace once a week we'd have this meeting and it was all my different coworkers. We'd get together and we'd give each other speeches. And I think a lot of people did it because they wanted to have an hour off on Wednesdays, honestly.

[00:11:16] Like they would grab lunch and usually you'd just take like 20 or 30 minutes for lunch. But if you were in Toastmasters, you'd grab lunch and you'd take it to the Toastmasters room that we'd reserved and you'd have a full hour to kind of just like mess around and speak to other people. And then there were those of us who really, really wanted to get better.

[00:11:33] Public speaking. It was the best experience. I actually ended up through being in Toastmasters. I got to the point where I actually won a Toastmasters award at one point for a humorous speech contest. Where I talked about the time sold Barry Bonds a gym membership not knowing who Barry Bonds was.

[00:11:51] Toastmasters got me to a level where I was okay speaking in front of people but I wasn't. , I didn't [00:12:00] have the confidence that I knew what to do. I didn't have the confidence that I could build an experience in speaking that would have me to the point where I could be a keynote speaker, which throughout this process, I kind of realized that was my ultimate goal.

[00:12:14] I wanted to be someone that people would reach out to and say, Hey, listen we need a keynote speaker. We love your story. We love what you talk about. We wanna bring you in for this.

[00:12:23] isn't it funny that the things that we're most afraid of are usually the things that we most want, except for spiders? No one wants spiders.

[00:12:32] And death. Actually, I'm gonna take that back.

[00:12:35] The things that we're most afraid of in our businesses are really the things that we most want. HAHA! Gonna edit that broad stroke statement that I made.

[00:12:54] I love it when I say something and I think it through and I'm like, that was a really dumb thing to say. I wanna just go through the steps here so I got comfortable being on stage. As someone else. And then I got comfortable being in front of people and speaking as myself, but I still didn't know the nuts and bolts of public speaking.

[00:13:11] I didn't understand the different nuances, how I could use tactics and build my skillset to be a better speaker. And so last thing I did to become a better speaker is I signed up for this class through Own the Room, which I don't know if they're still in business.

[00:13:27] I know the pandemic really hit them hard, but own the room was a public speaking course that you could take in San Francisco Bay Area. And through this four day intensive course, I learned how to use space on the stage. I learned how to change my intonation. I learned how to structure a. So that you could build up the suspense to like a major moment and then lead people into a place where you wanted them to go.

[00:13:57] Once I kinda learned how to do that stuff, [00:14:00] it's not like I learned it and now I strategically plant them in how I talk. Right? , it's, it's very much like learning how to ride a bike. You learn the nuts and bolts of how you speed up and how you turn and how you break. It's not like you're consciously planning that when you're going for a bike ride, right?

[00:14:18] You just know how to do it as you ride the bike and because you know how to turn, you're so much more comfortable turning and because you know how to break, you feel so much more comfortable speeding up

[00:14:31] and because you know how to speed up, you're also not falling over. Like, I was going slowly down that hill when I was a kid.

[00:14:38] knowing how is one of the best things to build your confidence matched with this next thing, which is practice. knowing how to do something is absolutely useless if you're not doing it constantly. here's what I did.

[00:14:53] knowing how to do something is absolutely useless if you're not doing it constantly. here's what I did

[00:15:00] I constantly did improv. I constantly was speaking at Toastmasters. Anytime we had an all hands meeting at work, I would raise my hand and ask a question just to get myself comfortable speaking in front of that many people.

[00:15:17] I would volunteer to make announcements at events that I was helping. Announcements. Like, we found someone's phone. The phone has this color cover. If you're missing your phone, come and see us at this part of the event. Silly things. But that was necessary for me to build that comfort level with speaking.

[00:15:35] Now when the pandemic hit, this wasn't possible. And one of the things that I was most afraid of was I would lose this skill over time. I would lose my comfort. I was afraid that that fear would take over. And so in working with a coach, one of the things that I realized I could do is go live.

[00:15:53] Now, the scary thing about going live for me is that you couldn't see people's responses. You were speaking without [00:16:00] any feedback, right? And as someone with a D h D feedback is so important, right? Because we're constantly looking to other people to see how we should act. Because we unconsciously mirror everyone around us, right?

[00:16:17] So I want you to imagine a stand up comedian stands on stage and tries to do a whole set while they are blindfolded and have noise canceling headphones on. Like they don't know what's funny to the audience. they don't know what's landing. They don't know if people are shocked or angry or laughing their asses off. Now, I, I am not a standup comedian. I wasn't trying to be one. But I did want to know that people didn't think I was an absolute idiot. And usually when you're standing in front of a group of people and you can see their faces, you can gauge how much of an idiot you're being and you can change it in the moment.

[00:16:59] So one of the best challenges that my coach at the time gave me was just go live and don't have anything to say. Go live and just improvise with whatever is going on around. . And so if you were my Facebook friend back then, I apologize for the cringey lives that I did while I was out on a run and I'd just randomly go live on some random street and I'd talk about the street and I'd talk about like the foliage, and I would talk about my run and I would talk about the thoughts I was having.

[00:17:34] It was not interesting,

[00:17:36] but what it ultimately did, and this is important, is it showed my brain that I could do it and not die. Because when you're really, really afraid of something, what's ultimately happening is your nervous system is thinking, oh my God, if you do it, you're gonna die. This is going to equal death. It's like Eddie Izzard's whole thing, like death or cake.[00:18:00]

[00:18:00] And your brain is constantly going like, well, it's gonna be death. It's gonna be death, it's gonna be death. So if you haven't heard Eddie Izzard's whole death or cake routine, here it is, , So here's the really cool thing about practicing and showing your brain that you can do this one thing and not die and then you can do this next level thing and not die, is that the comfort level keeps expanding out until you're really comfortable doing a lot of things. And at some point that comfort level goes beyond what you even thought was possible for you.

[00:19:54] That comfort level like allows for you to do whatever it's going to take for you to [00:20:00] build this business.

[00:20:01] It's also really helpful for folks with A D H D to work at things in these incremental ways, right? Because for people with ADHD tackling a massive project, like if I had gone from that girl who is terrified of speaking, cuz she'd just finished failing massively at that luncheon, if I had tried to get ready to do a keynote talk in front of thousands of people.

[00:20:25] That would've been way too big of a project for me. It would've been overwhelming. My fear gremlins would've been popping up all over the place and the project would've just been too much, right? Because we have to remember, our ADHD brains do really well with short sprints. They do really well with, here's the one skill you are learning right now.

[00:20:46] You're gonna become an expert at this. And because we have a D H D and we learn things really quickly, we actually move faster when we break it down into smaller bits. and by breaking it down into smaller bits for myself unconsciously, I got to the point where I am perfectly comfortable standing in front of thousands of people.

[00:21:04] Now, I don't wanna say like, I'm like hanging out up there, not sweating. I'm sure like you can bet that I'm wearing extra deodorant if I'm standing in front of a few thousand people. But I'm not gonna be that stuttery, stammering, terrified mess that I used to be.

[00:21:19] And here's how that impacts my business.

[00:21:21] Now, I don't wanna say like, I'm like hanging out up there, not sweating. I'm sure like you can bet that I'm wearing extra deodorant if I'm standing in front of a few thousand people. But I'm not gonna be that stuttery, stammering, terrified mess that I used to be.

[00:21:36] And here's how that impacts my business. I now get clients by speaking. I now have a podcast that you're listening to right now. How meta is that? . I'm so comfortable going live on Facebook that I then branched out. I now go live on Instagram, on LinkedIn, on YouTube. Also Twitter. I'm not that I have any Twitter followers, but whatever.

[00:21:58] [00:22:00] And I don't even have to plan usually for how I go. I don't have to create a script. I come up with a general concept and I'm able to ad lib whatever it is that I'm gonna talk about. Then

[00:22:47] if 20 year old me heard me say that she would think I was nuts, she's like, what are you talking about? You don't have flashcards with every single word underlined.

[00:22:58] You don't have people apologizing to you afterwards for how bad you were. Like, people actually come up to you now and compliment you on what a good speaker you are. Like, that would be completely inconceivable to her. But here's what's possible for you. if you're really afraid of something, And you're willing to do the work to get better and you know that this is gonna be the one thing that's gonna be the key to your success in whatever it is that you wanna do.

[00:23:24] This is the dramatic arc of where you can go from and where you can get.

[00:23:29] There's another element to this, to tackling bravery to stepping out of being a weenie and facing the fear and doing it anyway, is you have to dare to believe in yourself.

[00:23:42] You have to be willing to believe that there is a world in which you're not gonna be afraid of this thing anymore.

[00:23:49] There are a couple different exercises that work in coaching. You know, you can actually create a persona that you become. When you're about to do something that's really out there and out of your normal comfort zone.[00:24:00] Beyonce actually did this really early on when she was starting off as a singer.

[00:24:04] She was terrified of performing, It wasn't Beyonce performing in that moment. It was this persona that she had created, and she would consciously turn herself into that persona so that she could deliver a performance that people would celebrate.

[00:24:52] Now, imagine Beyonce, the Beyonce that we know in this moment in time where she just conquers the world. She is the queen of everything. Imagine her being younger and terrified of getting on.

[00:25:08] Now the Beyonce, who is terrified of getting on stage, who needed that persona, she believed that there was a world where she could perform.

[00:25:15] And those of us with A D H D, we do this all the time without realizing it. We constantly believe that there's a world in which our superpowers are gonna be really valuable to others.

[00:25:29] Anytime you're jumping from one topic to another and tying them together and creating this new idea, you're believing in yourself, whether you know it or not, you're believing that you can find creative solutions to problems.

[00:25:42] so what do you have to do to step out of being a massive weenie and actually do the brave ass thing that will change your life? First and foremost, you have to identify what it is that you're afraid. Because he can't fix it. If you don't know what the problem is,

[00:25:56] you also have to identify what it is that you want. That's on [00:26:00] the other side of conquering this fear, because if what you want isn't something that you really, really want on a soul level, it's not worth it. you're not actually going to get over this fear, cuz it won't matter as much to you.

[00:26:14] Let's talk about spiders for a second, right? So many people are afraid of spiders and yet you don't see spider Masters. Popping up all over the world where people get together and they confront spiders all the time. And like, you know, different people bring tarantulas and other people bring black widows and other people just bring like those weird little brown spiders that end up in your house that actually aren't dangerous, but we're still terrified of them, Because overcoming your fear to spiders really doesn't matter unless you have this massive fear of spiders. And you also conversely want to be a spider expert, and that is like your dream, which I can't imagine that ever happening, right? , there are the fears that are worth getting over. And then there are the fears that, you know, no one cares.

[00:27:04] if your dream is to scale a skyscraper and you're terrified of heights, yes, you have to get over your fear of heights. . But if you're just afraid of heights and you live a normal person's life, that stays mostly on the ground. It's not that important. Who cares?

[00:27:23] My mom is terrified of heights. She absolutely hates them. so I do that typical millennial thing where I go into Zillow and different real estate websites, and I look at mansions that are like way outside my budget and my brain. In my brain. I'm constantly looking at what the stair situation is, because if the stairs are open and it goes several flights up, I know my mom would never, ever come over and visit me in that mansion, My mom has never had a reason to get over her fear of heights because it's not tied to any big dream she has. So you have to identify what fear it is that you have that is holding you back from building this.[00:28:00] Once you've identified it, you have to do what I instinctively did early on with public speaking.

[00:28:05] You have to figure out like, what is the first step to getting better at this? What will at least get me on the stage and not wanna vomit?

[00:28:12] What will at least get me comfortable stuttering and stammering if I, if it just happens? I'm recording this podcast. I can't tell you how many times I've stumbled over my words. My producer Neil will edit them out for the sake of your listening pleasure. But it happens and it doesn't throw me like it used to.

[00:28:30] That's thanks to improv. I had this one improv teacher who anytime we messed up a scene or messed up speaking about something, or we couldn't think of something to yes, and with he'd make us buck like a.

[00:28:43] And lemme tell you, there's nothing that gets you over a fear of speaking publicly, then standing in front of dozens of other adults and bucking like a chicken.

[00:28:57] Once you conquer that one basic fear, you have to think of what is the next step? What is that next marker for success? For me, it was standing in front of a room and being Katie McManus and sharing my own thoughts and believing that my thoughts were worth sharing.

[00:29:16] And finally, I needed to figure out the skills I needed to just learn the nuts and bolts of speaking. I needed to see from the experts. What would make me worth hiring as a keynote speaker

[00:29:30] and underneath it all, I had to believe in myself. I had to believe that there was a part of me that could potentially go from being someone that people apologize to for how bad they are to someone who's really confident, standing on stage, delivering their own thoughts and staring into the eyes of audience members and not wanting to crawl under the stage to hide.

[00:29:55] I also had to pair that with my reason for doing it, my desire, [00:30:00] my calling to help other people. And I wanna just point something out. You don't actually have to know exactly what that dream is, right? I didn't know that I was going to be a business strategist and money mindset coach who works with A D H D people.

[00:30:14] That is really specific , right? Back then, I just knew I wanted to help people and I knew that being comfortable being on stage was gonna be a major part of it, right? So I don't want you getting all flipped out about you having to figure out every single part of this, because I know your ADHD brain is gonna get super overwhelmed by all the different pieces of this puzzle, and you're gonna back away from it and you're not gonna start, fuck that.

[00:30:40] I want you just tackling that next level, finding that edge of your comfort level and just inching forward a little bit. I want you to know that you're gonna figure out the other pieces of the puzzle along the way.

[00:30:54] I wanna share with you the moment where I realized that all this work had paid off. So I mentioned briefly that I won an award for Toastmasters for a humorous speech contest. Now, I had entered this kind of on a dare. My friend Forrest had pointed at me in this meeting and been like, you need to do this.

[00:31:12] And I was like, Ugh, fine. Like I'll do it, whatever. And so I volunteered. We were competing against another club even so we had people that we didn't know that weren't in our club, that like, were gonna be competing against us and wanting us to fail who were gonna be present as I gave this speech.

[00:31:31] And so at the time, I woke up really early. Like I would wake up at four o'clock in the morning and I would be at work by. , right? And this is back in the pre pandemic days where you'd actually like shower and do your makeup and do your hair and get dressed nicely for work, and then you'd have to travel places, right?

[00:31:47] So I was tired by the time this event came around. It started around like six 30 in the evening. And of course, you know, you have multiple different people giving speeches and then they have to deliberate about who won. [00:32:00] So I gave my speech, I listened to one more speech and I turned to my friend Forrest.

[00:32:04] And I was like, do you think it'd be rude if I just went home now because I was tired. I needed to go to bed cuz I had to be up at four o'clock the next morning. And he was like, well that's kind of weird, but yeah, sure. I don't think it's a big deal. Like, go home. And so I went home and I'm getting ready for bed and I'm brushing my teeth and I get, my phone starts blowing up and my phone starts blowing up with a picture of a trophy.

[00:32:26] And like, I remember I'm like standing in my bathroom, brushing my teeth, I'm in my pajamas, taking my makeup off like I'm, I'm about to go to sleep and. My friend Forrest is texting me saying, you won, you won the humorous speech contest, and you're not here to accept it, so I accepted it for you. It's on your desk,

[00:32:45] The trophy is on your desk. And I remember looking myself in the mirror and being like, huh, like the other people were really funny. The other people's speeches were really good. Like the one girl I, I'll never forget, she wrote this speech all around someone in her office microwaving fish, and it was hysterical.

[00:33:06] She was able to turn this really benign, normal thing that happens when you have an asshole in your office into an incredibly funny story. And in that moment I realized, wow, all the work that I have done has literally paid off. I'm getting an award for how well I showed up in front of an audience and told a story.

[00:33:28] the next moment that told me that I had really gotten better at this was during the pandemic. I had gotten really comfortable doing lives. I would go live pretty much every day. I'd pick a month and just go live every single day that month. And I remember getting on a sales call with someone, and the first words out of their mouth was I've watched every single live you've ever done.

[00:33:50] Like, this guy had binged watched me like a Netflix series,

[00:33:55] and the next words out of his mouth were, I didn't get on the phone with you to say, no, I wanna work [00:34:00] with you.

[00:34:00] I'd gone from being mortified, wanting to crawl under a rock and. To actually making money to actually assigning clients because they've seen me show up and I share this, not to brag on myself, but to give you hope that this is possible for you in whatever way you need to develop bravery. You're gonna have that moment too.

[00:34:26] You're gonna win some kind of award, or you're gonna get some kind of massive feedback that's gonna signal to you that you've been successful in working on this. You're gonna grow your business and you're gonna have that moment where you realize that all the work that you've done is paying off in actual monetary dividends.

[00:34:46] But I wanna give you kind of a rude wake up call right now, is that none of that is gonna happen if you don't start now.

[00:34:52] Cuz if not now, If you haven't started working on this thing that you're afraid of now, when the hell are you gonna do it?

[00:35:01] Now one of the skills that I've learned throughout this journey is actually EFT tapping. And I really wish I had learned it earlier because it's one of those things that you can really, that you can do, and it's so simple to ground you in the moment and to rid yourself of fear.

[00:35:19] And I'm actually going to be doing a recording of this in my paid subscription on Apple Podcasts. So if you want me to guide you through a tapping routine to release fear and to gain that bravery that you need to take the next step, I want you to go and subscribe now.

[00:35:38] To subscribe you can go to weeniecast.com/winners.

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